From rch at umail.ucsb.edu Sat Apr 22 21:36:16 2006 From: rch at umail.ucsb.edu (Rama Hoetzlein) Date: Sat Apr 22 21:36:22 2006 Subject: [Tdg] Technology Design Group (TDG) Message-ID: <444B0440.9070202@umail.ucsb.edu> Hey all, If you get this e-mail, then I spoke with you recently about creating a technology group to combine our software engineering efforts to build something that merges our work. I think we're ready for something like this to happen... We have each created projects that represent the various parts of a potentially very powerful system: audio (Graham, Jorge, Lance), graphics (Mercury, Wes's OpenGl), devices (Dan's interface software), GUIs (Eric & Lance's efforts) and networking. With a little extra effort, we should be able to connect these pieces together to create something really useful. I think the project should remain nameless for a little while. I am hoping that we can define whatever-this-thing-will-be together and have the center of it all be a collaborative work, while we retain ownership over the sub-systems we've been working on. If we do this (we should! we should!)...then the only hope I have for now is for us to tear ourselves away from our computers at least once a week for a meeting where we get together, stop programming, see other human beings, and talk about high-level stuff like what we want (better than Jitter, better than Processing, etc.) and how we might be able to do it...2 hours a week is not a lot of time, and its better than watching a bad movie on TV to procrastinate from doing your thesis. I've created a mailing list called TDG we can use here: http://zydeco.mat.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/tdg To e-mail everyone, send to: tdg@mat.ucsb.edu To start the discussions, I think my only questions right now are: 1) When do we meet? and 2) Where? I've got lots of ideas for this software convergence.. but then I think we all do. Lets share them. Regards, Rama From rch at umail.ucsb.edu Mon Apr 24 15:18:53 2006 From: rch at umail.ucsb.edu (Rama Hoetzlein) Date: Mon Apr 24 15:18:57 2006 Subject: [Tdg] First meeting Message-ID: <444D4ECD.9030501@umail.ucsb.edu> Ok. Wed a 2pm it is. 4th fl. South hall. Things of gerenal interest that we will start with: - Defining goals - No boring code reviews. High-level design patterns. - Cross-platform architectures - General networking architectures - Software licensing - Maintaining code separation from thesis work, work for faculty and outside paid projects while still being able to build and retain ownership of a useful platform. I will be happy to kick off the first meeting by facilitating discussion and show a few slides. The first goal is to see if we have the same goals and resolve potential conflicts. There has been an interest in software licensing issues, so I can briefly discuss differences between GPL, LGPL and BSD. See ya, Rama From ljputnam at umail.ucsb.edu Mon Apr 24 21:58:46 2006 From: ljputnam at umail.ucsb.edu (Lance J. Putnam) Date: Mon Apr 24 21:58:56 2006 Subject: [Tdg] First meeting In-Reply-To: <444D4ECD.9030501@umail.ucsb.edu> References: <444D4ECD.9030501@umail.ucsb.edu> Message-ID: <20060424215846.vavhvrssg0ccwk4s@webaccess.umail.ucsb.edu> Looks like a good plan, CU then! Lance Rama Hoetzlein wrote: > Ok. Wed a 2pm it is. 4th fl. South hall. > > Things of gerenal interest that we will start with: > > - Defining goals > - No boring code reviews. High-level design patterns. > - Cross-platform architectures > - General networking architectures > - Software licensing > - Maintaining code separation from thesis work, work for faculty > and outside paid projects while still being able to build and retain > ownership of a useful platform. > > I will be happy to kick off the first meeting by facilitating > discussion and show a few slides. The first goal is to see if we have > the same goals and resolve potential conflicts. There has been an > interest in software licensing issues, so I can briefly discuss > differences between GPL, LGPL and BSD. > > See ya, > Rama > _______________________________________________ > Tdg mailing list > Tdg@mat.ucsb.edu > http://zydeco.mat.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/tdg -- Lance Putnam Graduate Student Media Arts and Technology / UCSB ljputnam@umail.ucsb.edu From graham at solaris-media.net Wed Apr 26 14:56:02 2006 From: graham at solaris-media.net (solaris) Date: Wed Apr 26 14:56:44 2006 Subject: [Tdg] fyi In-Reply-To: <444D4ECD.9030501@umail.ucsb.edu> References: <444D4ECD.9030501@umail.ucsb.edu> Message-ID: libsndfile - LPGL lua - MIT (like BSD but more flexible) On Apr 24, 2006, at 3:18 PM, Rama Hoetzlein wrote: > Ok. Wed a 2pm it is. 4th fl. South hall. > > Things of gerenal interest that we will start with: > > - Defining goals > - No boring code reviews. High-level design patterns. > - Cross-platform architectures > - General networking architectures > - Software licensing > - Maintaining code separation from thesis work, work for faculty > and outside paid projects while still being able to build and retain > ownership of a useful platform. > > I will be happy to kick off the first meeting by facilitating > discussion and show a few slides. The first goal is to see if we > have the same goals and resolve potential conflicts. There has been > an interest in software licensing issues, so I can briefly discuss > differences between GPL, LGPL and BSD. > > See ya, > Rama > _______________________________________________ > Tdg mailing list > Tdg@mat.ucsb.edu > http://zydeco.mat.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/tdg From dano at create.ucsb.edu Wed Apr 26 18:17:08 2006 From: dano at create.ucsb.edu (Dan Overholt) Date: Sun Apr 30 22:45:32 2006 Subject: [Tdg] fyi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hey all- i meant to be there for the first meeting today, i do want to participate. we should make sure there are good methods of getting hardware interfaced to everything, and i'll do what i can to this end! anyone want to clue me in as to the kickoff? -d On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, solaris wrote: > > libsndfile - LPGL > lua - MIT (like BSD but more flexible) > > On Apr 24, 2006, at 3:18 PM, Rama Hoetzlein wrote: > > > Ok. Wed a 2pm it is. 4th fl. South hall. > > > > Things of gerenal interest that we will start with: > > > > - Defining goals > > - No boring code reviews. High-level design patterns. > > - Cross-platform architectures > > - General networking architectures > > - Software licensing > > - Maintaining code separation from thesis work, work for faculty > > and outside paid projects while still being able to build and retain > > ownership of a useful platform. > > > > I will be happy to kick off the first meeting by facilitating > > discussion and show a few slides. The first goal is to see if we > > have the same goals and resolve potential conflicts. There has been > > an interest in software licensing issues, so I can briefly discuss > > differences between GPL, LGPL and BSD. > > > > See ya, > > Rama > > _______________________________________________ > > Tdg mailing list > > Tdg@mat.ucsb.edu > > http://zydeco.mat.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/tdg > > _______________________________________________ > Tdg mailing list > Tdg@mat.ucsb.edu > http://zydeco.mat.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/tdg > -- Dan Overholt -- http://www.create.ucsb.edu/~dano Center for Research in Electronic Art Technology, UCSB From rch at umail.ucsb.edu Sat Apr 22 21:36:16 2006 From: rch at umail.ucsb.edu (Rama Hoetzlein) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 21:36:16 -0700 Subject: [Tdg] Technology Design Group (TDG) Message-ID: <444B0440.9070202@umail.ucsb.edu> Hey all, If you get this e-mail, then I spoke with you recently about creating a technology group to combine our software engineering efforts to build something that merges our work. I think we're ready for something like this to happen... We have each created projects that represent the various parts of a potentially very powerful system: audio (Graham, Jorge, Lance), graphics (Mercury, Wes's OpenGl), devices (Dan's interface software), GUIs (Eric & Lance's efforts) and networking. With a little extra effort, we should be able to connect these pieces together to create something really useful. I think the project should remain nameless for a little while. I am hoping that we can define whatever-this-thing-will-be together and have the center of it all be a collaborative work, while we retain ownership over the sub-systems we've been working on. If we do this (we should! we should!)...then the only hope I have for now is for us to tear ourselves away from our computers at least once a week for a meeting where we get together, stop programming, see other human beings, and talk about high-level stuff like what we want (better than Jitter, better than Processing, etc.) and how we might be able to do it...2 hours a week is not a lot of time, and its better than watching a bad movie on TV to procrastinate from doing your thesis. I've created a mailing list called TDG we can use here: http://zydeco.mat.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/tdg To e-mail everyone, send to: tdg at mat.ucsb.edu To start the discussions, I think my only questions right now are: 1) When do we meet? and 2) Where? I've got lots of ideas for this software convergence.. but then I think we all do. Lets share them. Regards, Rama From rch at umail.ucsb.edu Mon Apr 24 15:18:53 2006 From: rch at umail.ucsb.edu (Rama Hoetzlein) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:18:53 -0700 Subject: [Tdg] First meeting Message-ID: <444D4ECD.9030501@umail.ucsb.edu> Ok. Wed a 2pm it is. 4th fl. South hall. Things of gerenal interest that we will start with: - Defining goals - No boring code reviews. High-level design patterns. - Cross-platform architectures - General networking architectures - Software licensing - Maintaining code separation from thesis work, work for faculty and outside paid projects while still being able to build and retain ownership of a useful platform. I will be happy to kick off the first meeting by facilitating discussion and show a few slides. The first goal is to see if we have the same goals and resolve potential conflicts. There has been an interest in software licensing issues, so I can briefly discuss differences between GPL, LGPL and BSD. See ya, Rama From ljputnam at umail.ucsb.edu Mon Apr 24 21:58:46 2006 From: ljputnam at umail.ucsb.edu (Lance J. Putnam) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:58:46 -0700 Subject: [Tdg] First meeting In-Reply-To: <444D4ECD.9030501@umail.ucsb.edu> References: <444D4ECD.9030501@umail.ucsb.edu> Message-ID: <20060424215846.vavhvrssg0ccwk4s@webaccess.umail.ucsb.edu> Looks like a good plan, CU then! Lance Rama Hoetzlein wrote: > Ok. Wed a 2pm it is. 4th fl. South hall. > > Things of gerenal interest that we will start with: > > - Defining goals > - No boring code reviews. High-level design patterns. > - Cross-platform architectures > - General networking architectures > - Software licensing > - Maintaining code separation from thesis work, work for faculty > and outside paid projects while still being able to build and retain > ownership of a useful platform. > > I will be happy to kick off the first meeting by facilitating > discussion and show a few slides. The first goal is to see if we have > the same goals and resolve potential conflicts. There has been an > interest in software licensing issues, so I can briefly discuss > differences between GPL, LGPL and BSD. > > See ya, > Rama > _______________________________________________ > Tdg mailing list > Tdg at mat.ucsb.edu > http://zydeco.mat.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/tdg -- Lance Putnam Graduate Student Media Arts and Technology / UCSB ljputnam at umail.ucsb.edu From graham at solaris-media.net Wed Apr 26 14:56:02 2006 From: graham at solaris-media.net (solaris) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:56:02 -0700 Subject: [Tdg] fyi In-Reply-To: <444D4ECD.9030501@umail.ucsb.edu> References: <444D4ECD.9030501@umail.ucsb.edu> Message-ID: libsndfile - LPGL lua - MIT (like BSD but more flexible) On Apr 24, 2006, at 3:18 PM, Rama Hoetzlein wrote: > Ok. Wed a 2pm it is. 4th fl. South hall. > > Things of gerenal interest that we will start with: > > - Defining goals > - No boring code reviews. High-level design patterns. > - Cross-platform architectures > - General networking architectures > - Software licensing > - Maintaining code separation from thesis work, work for faculty > and outside paid projects while still being able to build and retain > ownership of a useful platform. > > I will be happy to kick off the first meeting by facilitating > discussion and show a few slides. The first goal is to see if we > have the same goals and resolve potential conflicts. There has been > an interest in software licensing issues, so I can briefly discuss > differences between GPL, LGPL and BSD. > > See ya, > Rama > _______________________________________________ > Tdg mailing list > Tdg at mat.ucsb.edu > http://zydeco.mat.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/tdg From dano at create.ucsb.edu Wed Apr 26 18:17:08 2006 From: dano at create.ucsb.edu (Dan Overholt) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Tdg] fyi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hey all- i meant to be there for the first meeting today, i do want to participate. we should make sure there are good methods of getting hardware interfaced to everything, and i'll do what i can to this end! anyone want to clue me in as to the kickoff? -d On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, solaris wrote: > > libsndfile - LPGL > lua - MIT (like BSD but more flexible) > > On Apr 24, 2006, at 3:18 PM, Rama Hoetzlein wrote: > > > Ok. Wed a 2pm it is. 4th fl. South hall. > > > > Things of gerenal interest that we will start with: > > > > - Defining goals > > - No boring code reviews. High-level design patterns. > > - Cross-platform architectures > > - General networking architectures > > - Software licensing > > - Maintaining code separation from thesis work, work for faculty > > and outside paid projects while still being able to build and retain > > ownership of a useful platform. > > > > I will be happy to kick off the first meeting by facilitating > > discussion and show a few slides. The first goal is to see if we > > have the same goals and resolve potential conflicts. There has been > > an interest in software licensing issues, so I can briefly discuss > > differences between GPL, LGPL and BSD. > > > > See ya, > > Rama > > _______________________________________________ > > Tdg mailing list > > Tdg at mat.ucsb.edu > > http://zydeco.mat.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/tdg > > _______________________________________________ > Tdg mailing list > Tdg at mat.ucsb.edu > http://zydeco.mat.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/tdg > -- Dan Overholt -- http://www.create.ucsb.edu/~dano Center for Research in Electronic Art Technology, UCSB